Project Serpo
The Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program
The gradual release of confidential documents pertaining to a top secret exchange program of twelve US military personnel to Serpo, a planet of Zeta Reticuli, between the years 1965-78 |
1) Interview with EBE-2: March 5th, 1983 at Los Alamos National Labs.
The following reported interview was referenced in discussion by many on the
list, and can be found both in Exempt
from Disclosure by Robert Collins, and on Collins' website www.ufoconspiracy.com.
While the details do not match precisely, the orders of magnitude of the numbers
provided (length of day and year) do correspond.
The following is an account of the meeting I [Rick Doty] was involved in with EBE-2. On March 5, 1983, I was at Los Alamos National Laboratories conducting business on a counterintelligence project. During my visit, a source I'll call LANL-1, asked me to sit in on a very special interview. Not knowing what he was talking about, I questioned him. However, he wouldn't say exactly what the project involved or who was being interviewed.
I accompanied LANL-1 to an underground facility west of the Los Alamos complex. The area was called, Site 30. Access to this facility was gained by entering Area 49. Access to the underground facility was through building number 49-2091. An elevator took us down about 60 feet (only estimating). Once we arrived, access was gained through a large vault opening outside the elevator. We walked down a hallway to another vault door.
We entered and turned right. We walked about 200 feet turned left and entered vault door to a large room. This room contained two tables, several chairs and recording equipment. I sat near the door. About ten minutes later, three people, who I did not know, entered the room. One, an Air Force Colonel, asked me to sign a security document, which gave me an upgraded clearance, TS/SCI/Group-MJ-B-3 clearance. I've never heard of this but I signed. The Colonel told me I was to listen and not make any sounds during the interview.
I asked the Colonel who was being interviewed and he told me a guest from another planet! The Colonel left. The other two people set up a table with a microphone and recording equipment, including a camera. About five minutes later, in walks a 4' 9" non human looking creature. It was dressed in a tight fitting cream colored suit. It had no hair and was identified to me as EBE-2.
EBE-2 sat in a chair across the table from two civilians and the AF Colonel. I did not know the identity of the three. LANL-1 came into the room and sat next to me. I listened while the three asked EBE-2 a series of questions pertaining to its home planet. First question was about the temperature, climate and weather. EBE-2 responded in perfect English but sounded like a machine generated voice. Very hard to explain but it was either coming from a device that EBE-2 had in front of him or from something in its body.
EBE-2 explained the weather of its planet which was dry, varying temperature between 65-90 degrees. There was 35 hours of constant sunshine and three hours of darkness. Rainfall occurred only during one of its months each year. The day lasted 38 of our hours. They did not have months but did have years which consisted of approximately 600 of our days. They used a society cycle which I understood to be similar to our months. During this society cycle each Eben worked a certain time and conducted business. There was also a rest cycle which consisted of a regulated period of sleep. I don't recall the exact number of hours or sleep/rest. EBE-2 discussed weather patterns and how they were formed. I don't recall the exact words. However, EBE-2 seemed very intelligent and fully explained each weather pattern in precise detail. He used Earth's equivalents for Meteorology terms.
The interesting part of this interview was that I didn't hear any questions being asked by the three humans sitting across from EBE-2. Either the questions were already given to EBE-2 or the three humans were "thinking the questions" and EBE-2 would respond in English.
[Clarification requested by Rick Doty: this was observed on a TV monitor and Doty was not actually in the same room as EBE-2.]
[Addition from Robert Collins: EBE–1 stated that his planet was named "Sieu" – but that was in Eben, not English. EBE–1 (initially just known as EBE) was the sole survivor of the Roswell crash, and lived until 1952 (see this posting by Anonymous). He never mentioned "Serpo" as such. EBE-2 said that his planet's days were approximately 38 Earth hours; that he liked the cool climate of Earth, around LANL (Los Alamos National Laboratories) and northern New Mexico; and that he was a scientist and was providing assistance to Earth scientists in the area of space travel. EBE–2 arrived in 1964 and stayed till 1984.]
© Peregrine Communications (Robert Collins) www.ufoconspiracy.com
Special thanks for the permission to reproduce the interview here.
2)
Anomalous orbital data.
The orbital data supplied by Anonymous (particularly the 865 day period of
orbit) do not appear to accord with Kepler's
laws. This generated a large volume of discussion on the list, a number
of whose members are prominent scientists.
However, it's reasonable to consider that if a story like this was invented
the first thing a storyteller would get right would be the physics, as the
“correct” numbers are easy to calculate. So the fact that some
of the numbers differ widely from those predicted by known laws – a
sitting duck for criticism – may be a validating factor, not
otherwise. Why set oneself up to be dismissed immediately?
3)
Distortion of biological rhythms in the absence of the measurement of earth
time.
Research has been done in caves on chronobiology,
with no natural rhythms to guide the subjective judgement of time.
In 1962, Michel
Siffre, a French caver and geologist, spent two months in a cave in the
European Alps in the first of several “out of time” experiments.
After 61 days underground with no time reference, he resurfaced on 17 September
believing the date was 20 August.
In 1972 – now in collaboration with NASA – Siffre supervised other
similar experiments before going down again into the Midnight Cave in Del
Rio, Texas where he for 205 days, a far longer period. Siffre had all comforts
and conveniences, including communication with the outside world, but had
no means of measuring time. He had agreed to emerge when he judged 175 days
had passed. Siffre said: "My brain would make automatic adjustments because
it had memorised the previous experiment, and yet I was still out."
It’s interesting to speculate that while NASA may never have revealed
(or maybe never knew themselves) the real reason for sponsoring the experiment,
this would have been smack in the middle of the Eben exchange program (originally
planned to be 1965-75, though Anonymous reports that it stretched to 1978)
and presumably in their communication with Earth it would have become clear
by then that the twelve had become time-disoriented: so research on Earth
was necessary. Siffre, having done the first and only other experiment in
1962, would have been the obvious guinea pig.
A little calculation is interesting. In the first experiment, Siffre “stretched”
his subjective time by a massive 85%. In the second experiment, fully prepared
and alert to the problem, he did better – but still stretched his stay
by 17%. The Eben exchangees appear to have stretched their own stay by approx
30%. Not proof as such, but a compelling indication, from an unexpected direction,
that Anonymous's report has validity.
Reference: Michel Siffre, "Six months alone in a cave", National
Geographic, v.147, no.3, March 1975, pp.426-435.
4) The ability of some ETs to manipulate and transcend
time is referenced in Dan Sherman's book, Above
Black.
Dan Sherman wrote a book, Above
Black, in which he reveals how he was groomed and trained as a telepathic
communicator with a race of ETs from and about whom he received data but never
actually met – in preparation for an anticipated catastrophic event.
He learned information that appears to corroborate the difficult reports by
Anonymous that time is in some way experienced differently by the Ebens and/or
in the Ebens' environment, with a corresponding distortion of physical laws
as we would understand them.
Sherman states that he learned that "time" – as we humans
know it – does not have the same meaning for them. They still age as
we do but are not bound by the physics of time as we currently are. Their
means of travel across vast distances is heavily dependent on the manipulation
of time but not as we perceive it.
Sherman enquired whether they can travel through time, i.e. whether they can
go backwards and forwards in time. He was told that it was not possible to
witness a reality that occurred in some other time but the present: in order
to go back in time, one must assume that there exists a reference point from
which to measure backward or forward. This is an impossibility. Essentially,
they weren't able to travel through time – rather, around
time and from time. Sherman states that he never really understood
what this meant. Their mode of propulsion was somehow that they used both
time and electromagnetic energy. Sherman was also told that our sun was very
unique; and that someday we would understand how it really worked and how
we could utilize the same methods that they themselves use but on a smaller
scale.
References: www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Sherman_1.doc,
www.aboveblack.com
5) The reported inclusion of a "DIM" in the exchangees'
inventory.
Anonymous reports in his fifth
posting:
They also took electric razors, coffee pots, electric heaters, a DIM (no explanation as to what this was), an electric IBM typewriter, a scientific calculator, slide rules (both conventional and scientific), Base Data Collection Recorder (BDCR), three different sized telescopes, tangents, both conventional and electrical.


7) The scene of the exchangees departing Earth on the Eben craft appears to be cinematically portrayed in the final scene of the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind – with the same number of male and female personnel reported by Anonymous.
The
final segment of the movie does indeed feature twelve people – ten
men and two women. Twelve people is also the number given in Spielberg's
book of the movie. Interestingly, one blonde woman stands out, first shown
in a long close-up when the priest gives his blessing. Then, when the team
members file past, all have dark glasses with the exception of the blonde...
and Roy Neary, who would be the thirteenth member. The subsequent shot is
where they line up, and now the woman is seen to have put on her dark glasses
to join the others. This appears to be a flawed piece of direction, most untypical
of Spielberg; the reader is left to speculate on any possible significance.
Also worthy of note is that all team members wear a triangular patch on their
left arm and the American Flag on the right arm of their orange jumpsuits.
There is a uniformed officer with the priest when the blessing is given.
9)
The Eben craft power source, reported to utilize negative matter.
In his eleventh posting,
Anonymous writes:
Team Commander: "In the center of these containers is a copper colored
coil or something looking like a coil. There is a bright light being shined
from a point above into the center of the coil. We hear a very dull hum,
but no major loud sounds. 661 thinks it is a negative matter versus positive
matter system."
The following was summarized in simple terms by a student on www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/StudentSites2002/interstellar_travel/negativemass.html
Negative Mass Propulsion
The idea of negative mass propulsion was created to eliminate the
need for fuel, since fuel limits the feasibility of interstellar travel
so much. Theoretically, it would allow faster than light travel without
violating Einstein's theory of relativity. (note 1)
The way this works is it uses gravity to bend space around the spaceship.
A large amount of "negative mass" would be in front of the ship
and a large amount of positive mass would be behind it, and the masses would
curve space in such a way that it'd accelerate the ship. Apparently, such
a process would not violate the conservation of energy, as the space it
is travelling through would be warped. (note 2)
If this
theory were to work, it could be the best form of transportation available.
It has been suggested that it would allow a ship to bypass the limitations
of relativity, and a ship could actually travel to and from its destination
at speeds far faster than the speed of light without running into the problem
of taking several years to do so. (note 2)
Unfortunately, we don't even know if negative matter exists, and
even if we did discover it, we'd have to develop a way to turn the effect
of the matter on and off, so the speed of the ship could be controlled.
(note 1)
1. www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/PAO/html/warp/ideachev.htm
2. www.dark-planet.com/ortemus/eweasel.htm
10)
Documents newly disclosed, reporting confusion, sickness and disorientation
when entering a disk at the Kingman crash site.
These two pages of a classified document were sent to us on 24 December
by a researcher (name supplied but withheld here). They appear to be transcripts
of a prepared briefing or lecture – or perhaps a simple memo –
dated 24 March 1995, of the experiences of a number of military personnel
when entering a downed craft (Kingman, Arizona, 1953). The symptoms reported
correspond closely with those reported in the Team
Commander's log in the eleventh posting.

As additional consistency: in 1995, Bill Uhouse, an insider at S-4 in Area 51, who worked with a live alien (J-Rod) trying to bridge the gap between ET technology and ours on a craft delivered by the ETs to S-4, told the researcher who supplied the document above about a craft recovered in 1953 from the vicinity of Kingman, Arizona. Uhouse reported the following, as summarized by this researcher:
The craft kept making a noise that the engineers were unable to stop. Somebody suggested they bring the alien occupants back from Los Alamos, where they had been taken to a prepared habitat, and have them stop the noise. This was done, and when the aliens indicated they would have to go inside the ship to stop the noise, that was permitted. It is believed that they made contact with another of their ships while inside. Then they came to the door again and were reloaded into the van and taken back to Los Alamos.

13)
A message received on this website contact form on 7 December 2005:
I [BR] received this message below on the website contact form on 7 December,
the day after the Coast to Coast AM with George Noory radio show. I immediately
relayed it to Victor Martinez, asking him to check with Anonymous whether
the information was correct or a hoax.
The reply came back that it was indeed correct but was a very long story
which would NOT be made public, and we should under no circumstances release
the information. So we didn’t, and sat on it... not knowing quite
what to think. Now – in further indication of a policy reversal
– we are being asked to do just that. Here’s the 7 December
message in its entirety. It entirely confirms the posting
by Anonymous on 28 January:
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From: "T.G.H." <contact@serpo.org>
Date: 7 Dec 2005 09:11:23 -0000
To: "Serpo.org" <contact@serpo.org>
Subject: Contact
There is much, much more to this story. One person, a male, died during
the trip to Zeta.
He suffered a pulmonary embolism. In addition, an autopsy was performed
at which time
the deceased individal's DNA was extracted and stored. At a later tine,
the DNA was used
in a cloning type process which actually involved creating a hybrid being,
part human, part
alien. Through an advanced aging process and something called rapid-cycling
cloning,
several hundred hybrid beings were created. Some remain on Zeta, but others
were
returned to Earth. This can be verified in documents contained in the
ZR Repro Factor file.